Chad Daybell’s kids declare he was “fooled within the worst, most threatening manner potential” by Lori Vallow


[This story previously aired on September 1, 2021. It was updated on July 23, 2022.]

It was a case that gripped the nation:  the disappearance of 16-year-old Tylee Ryan and her 7-year-old brother JJ Vallow. Their mom, Lori Vallow, and her new husband Chad Daybell refusing to inform anybody the place the youngsters had been.

Months after vanishing into skinny air, their our bodies had been discovered buried in Daybell’s yard exterior of Rexburg, Idaho.  Daybell and Vallow are charged with first-degree homicide within the deaths of the youngsters. They’ve pleaded not responsible to the homicide costs.

After a yr of public silence, Daybell’s 5 grownup kids — satisfied their father is harmless — spoke out collectively for the primary time to “48 Hours.”

“My father wants somebody to be a voice for him,” Emma Murray tells “48 Hours” contributor Jonathan Vigliotti. “To let folks know what’s actual, what we all know.”

They need to inform his story, how they imagine JJ and Tylee’s stays ended up of their father’s yard and why they imagine he didn’t do it. They imagine he was lured into an online of homicide and deceit.

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An aerial view of Todd Daybell’s yard, the place the stays of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan had been discovered on June 9, 2020


Up till that horrible day when authorities swarmed their father’s property in search of two lacking youngsters, the 5 Daybell kids say they had been simply an odd Mormon household residing exterior Rexburg, Idaho.  

However that has modified.

Emma Murray: Individuals are appearing like we have completed horrible crimes. And that we’re going to harm folks … Folks despatched me Fb messages threatening my son. That is simply each day life now.

Their father, Chad Daybell, is charged with one of the vital savage crimes to ever befall this group:  the murders of his new spouse’s two kids – 16-year-old Tylee Ryan and 7-year-old JJ Vallow.  

Mark Daybell: It is simply not potential. Anybody who says that my dad may kill an individual does not know my dad.

Jonathan Vigliotti: The proof does not look good.

Emma Murray: I feel I might interpret it as many individuals have. However we now have to keep in mind that this is only one facet of the story. And it does look actually dangerous.

The Daybell siblings, Emma, Mark, Leah, Seth, and Garth, spoke out collectively for the primary time. They are saying we have solely heard one facet of the story, and so they’re right here to inform their father’s facet and the way they imagine the remains of Tylee and JJ ended up of their father’s yard.

It is a story that begins with their stepmother Lori Vallow. 

Jonathan Vigliotti [with Emma in Daybell’s backyard]: Wanting again, was your father assembly Lori and marrying her, the worst mistake of his life?

Emma Murray: Completely. None of this is able to’ve occurred if Lori Vallow had by no means come into my household’s life. 

The Lori Vallow the world has come to know — the “doomsday mom” who refused to say the place her kids had been, the lady now accused with Chad Daybell of murdering  her personal two youngsters — is nothing just like the doting mom April Raymond as soon as thought of a pricey pal.

Tylee Ryan, JJ Vallow and Lori Vallow.
Tylee Ryan, JJ Vallow and Lori Vallow.

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April Raymond: She did every part for JJ, every part for Tylee. They had been … the middle of her world. And so, I am undecided what hijacked that precedence.

April Raymond met Lori in 2015 in Hawaii.  On the time, Lori was married to businessman Charles Vallow and so they had been elevating the 2 kids – Tylee, Lori’s teenage daughter from a former marriage, and their adopted son JJ, the grandson of Charles’s sister Kay Woodcock. JJ had autism and Lori appeared the perfect mom for him, says Raymond.

April Raymond: JJ was very tough to handle …  So … I actually admired how affected person she was with him and the way a lot care she took of him.

However it was Tylee’s bond with JJ that Tylee’s shut pal Vaisia Itaaehau will at all times bear in mind.

Vaisia Itaaehau: I beloved being round JJ and Tylee. Tylee was actually protecting over JJ. … and she or he was form of like one other mama to him.

However round 2017, pals say Lori’s relationships along with her youngsters started to shift — someday after she began studying the books of Chad Daybell. Daybell was knowledgeable gravedigger-tuned-novelist and podcaster from Rexburg, Idaho. He wrote non secular tales concerning the destruction of the world.

Morgan Loew | Investigative reporter and CBS Information guide: He tapped into this “prepper” component on the market, individuals who wished to arrange for Armageddon.

Chad and Tammy Daybell
Chad and Tammy Daybell

Emma Murray

Daybell was married. He and his spouse Tammy had been elevating 5 kids. Some say, over time, Chad’s non secular beliefs turned excessive. He believed he may discuss to useless folks and see into the long run. In response to one witness, Chad talked about darkish spirits and zombies.

Morgan Loew: Chad had this perception that some individuals who had been on this earth weren’t actually the folks they had been purported to be. … Their souls had left them. …  And — evilness took over their our bodies. And the one strategy to launch their spirits to heaven was to kill the our bodies.

Someday in 2018, Lori met Chad Daybell, growing what pals say appeared like a cult-like devotion to him. 

Vaisia Itaaehau: She was a fan of his writing. And … when she really received to speak with him, it, yeah, simply escalated from there.

Lori began doing podcasts with Chad. Quickly she was speaking about darkish spirits and zombies and telling family and friends that she had been chosen by God to hold out his mission.

Morgan Loew: Lori believed that she was chosen to steer the 144,000 after the apocalypse. To steer the survivors of the human race to an everlasting life whereas the remainder of society burned.

She additionally believed she had been appointed one other, extra ominous position, says Raymond.

April Raymond: A part of her mission on Earth was to eradicate the darkness, the demonic — the evil.

Raymond says Lori informed her a type of evil beings was her personal husband — Charles Vallow.

April Raymond: The best way she had defined it to me about Charles … was already useless. And that there was a demon residing inside him.

OFFICER DORENBUSH | Gilbert Police Division: What did she say yesterday?

CHARLES VALLOW: She mentioned, you are not Charles. I do not know who you’re, what you probably did with Charles.

Charles was so spooked by Lori he went to the police. Their dialog was recorded on the officer’s bodycam.

CHARLES VALLOW: She thinks she’s a resurrected being and a … and a god.

Morgan Loew: Charles … He was worried about his safety and the security of his kids.

OFFICER DORENBUSH: OK. So, what makes her a hazard to herself and to others?

CHARLES VALLOW: She threatened me, homicide me, kill me.

OFFICER DORENBUSH: She threatened to homicide you?


Within the winter of 2019, Charles Vallow modified the beneficiary of his $1 million life insurance coverage coverage from Lori to his sister Kay Woodcock, JJ’s organic grandmother.

After virtually 13 years of marriage, Charles Vallow filed for divorce.

Charles Vallow
On January 31, 2019, Charles Vallow is seen on police bodycam video inform officers his spouse had develop into “unhinged.

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CHARLES VALLOW [to police officer]: She’s unhinged. It scared the crap out of me.

Charles Vallow had good purpose to be scared.


By the summer time of 2019, Charles Vallow had gone to the police twice — claiming there was one thing desperately flawed along with his estranged spouse Lori Vallow.  

CHARLES VALLOW: She’s psychologically, she’s gone. One thing’s occurred to her.

However nobody acted on it, and Charles Vallow let his guard down. On the morning of July 11, Charles went to Lori’s rental residence in Chandler, Arizona to choose up JJ and take him to high school.

Morgan Loew: He goes into the home. Lori and Tylee and JJ are there, and so is Alex Cox.

Alex Cox is Lori’s brother.

Morgan Loew: Alex was Lori’s protector. … he by no means hesitated to resort to violence if he believed he was defending his sister.

Inside minutes of getting into the home that morning, Charles was mendacity on the ground in a pool of blood … shot twice within the chest by Alex Cox in what Alex claimed was self-defense. 

Cox calmly referred to as 911:

911 DISPATCHER: Is he respiration?

ALEX COX: I can not inform.

Morgan Loew: He mentioned, “I have to report a taking pictures. I — I shot my brother-in-law in self-defense.”

911 DISPATCHER: And is he harm? Is he alive or —?

ALEX COX: Yeah, there’s blood. He isn’t transferring.

Dispatchers instructed Cox on the right way to do CPR:

911 DISPATCHER: Are you continue to doing chest compressions with him?


When police questioned him, Cox was sitting on the curb exterior the house.  He informed them Charles and Lori had gotten right into a battle.

Chad Cox talks with police after taking pictures Charles Vallow.

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CHANDLER POLICE OFFICER. [bodycam video]: So, you get in an argument? What’s it over?

ALEX COX: Effectively, it was over my sister. He was getting bodily along with her.

Cox informed them he received between Charles and Lori and shot Charles useless when Charles charged at him. Sooner or later, Lori and Tylee received into the automobile and left.

Morgan Loew: Lori … takes JJ to high school. And he or she comes again later with Tylee.

In bodycam video, police blurred Tylee’s face, as a result of she was a minor.

CHANDLER POLICE OFFICER [Bodycam video]: Hello, who’re – are you?  [Lori speaks] OK, simply stand over there for only a second, guys.

Morgan Loew: What was placing concerning the footage that we noticed was that …There isn’t any regret. There isn’t any, “Oh, my gosh, my husband’s useless.”

Lori Vallow is recorded on police bodycam video after studying her husband was useless.

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POLICE OFFICER [Bodycam video]: How lengthy have you ever lived right here?

LORI VALLOW:  Like three weeks.

POLICE OFFICER:  Oh geez, yeah, OK.

LORI VALLOW: That is why the neighbors do not know us very nicely.


LORI VALLOW: Like, “Hello neighbors, sorry” [laughs].

POLICE OFFICER: Are you working in any respect?


Lori, Alex and Tylee had been questioned on the police headquarters. All informed comparable tales of self-defense and had been despatched residence.

About two months later, Lori and the 2 youngsters moved to Rexburg, Idaho – not removed from the place Chad Daybell lived along with his spouse, Tammy. Lori’s brother, Alex Cox, the person she thought of her protector, moved into the identical advanced.

Morgan Loew: Lori kind of seen Alex because the destroyer of dangerous issues in her eyes … he was there to handle the issues.

It seems one downside was Tylee Ryan.

Morgan Loew: We all know that within the spring of 2019, Lori began referring to Tylee as a zombie, to at the least considered one of her shut pals.

A type of shut pals was April Raymond.

April Raymond: And he or she had described Tylee as having a darkish spirit.

JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan, and their uncle, Alex Cox, at Yellowstone Nationwide Park on September 8, 2019.  Police say that is the final recognized picture of Tylee earlier than she disappeared. 


The final recognized footage of Tylee Ryan are from September 8. She was with Lori, JJ and Alex Cox at Yellowstone Nationwide Park.  The 16-year-old was by no means seen once more.  And simply two weeks later, JJ Vallow would go lacking.

Morgan Loew: Tylee was JJ’s protector. … As soon as she was gone, JJ had no one. He had no one to guard him or be careful for him.

The night time earlier than JJ vanished, Lori’s good pal, Melanie Gibb and her boyfriend David Warwick had been staying at Lori’s townhome. They later testified that they had been recording a non secular podcast in Lori’s kitchen when Alex Cox appeared:

MELANIE GIBB: He introduced JJ into the home throughout the center of the podcast.

ROB WOOD | Madison County/Metropolis of Rexburg Deputy Prosecuting Lawyer: How did Alex Cox deliver JJ into the home?

MELANIE GIBB: He carried him, in and he was asleep.

Last known photo of JJ Vallow
JJ Vallow is seen sporting crimson pajamas on September 22, 2019. It is  the final recognized picture of the 7-year-old.

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A photograph of JJ sporting crimson pajamas was taken that very same day. It’s the final recognized picture of him. Warwick testified that Alex put JJ to mattress in Lori’s room.  However the little boy was nowhere to be seen the following morning. Lori informed David why:

DAVID WARWICK: She mentioned that he was being a zombie and climbed up on the cupboards, climbed up on high of the fridge, smashed her image of Christ down, after which climbed up onto the higher cupboards and received between the highest of the cupboard and the ceiling.

ROB WOOD: OK. After which what did she inform you?

DAVID WARWICK: I requested to see him, and she or he simply mentioned that he was uncontrolled, so she had Alex come and get him …

JJ was by no means seen once more.

Throughout city, one other household was about to get misplaced within the wreckage.

Extra Mysterious Deaths 

These are the occasions that Garth and Emma Daybell cherish.  

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Garth Daybell and Emma Murray share household pictures with Jonathan Vigliotti.

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Garth Daybell [looking through family photos]: Life was good. Life was glad.

Life seems to be a complete lot completely different now.  

Jonathan Vigliotti: How do you are feeling as you look by means of these a lot happier occasions?

Emma Murray: There’s been a lot disappointment … there’s part of me that feels damaged, prefer it’ll by no means be mounted.

Earlier than anybody knew Tylee and JJ had been lacking, the Daybell kids turned a part of the story — a narrative that started on the saddest day of their lives: October 19, 2019.

Garth Daybell: I used to be asleep, and I heard a thump … And heard my dad yell, “Garth, Garth, come fast.”

Tammy Daybell
The Daybell kids say when the coroner arrived that day, she informed them it appeared their mom, Tammy had died of pure causes. The kids, who say their mom was in failing well being, accepted that clarification. And so they say it was they, not their father, who declined to have an post-mortem carried out.

Emma Murray

Garth discovered his mom, 49-year-old Tammy Daybell, mendacity half on the mattress, half on the ground.

Garth Daybell: I simply ran over and picked her up and put her again on the mattress. … And I mentioned to my dad, I mentioned, “I feel she’s useless.”

Leah Murphy [in tears]: It was simply so heartbreaking … It simply appeared so unfathomable that it may even occur.

Garth Daybell: My dad was simply pacing backwards and forwards … Simply sayin’, “Why? How may the occur?” Pointing at footage on the wall, “She will’t be useless.” Like, “how may this be? What will we do?”

When the coroner arrived, the household says, she informed them it regarded like Tammy had died of pure causes. The kids, who say their mom was in failing well being, didn’t query it. 

Emma Murray: She would get out of breath in a short time and … would get very drained. … And he or she began going to mattress very early at night time.

The household declined an post-mortem. A choice that might later trigger some to query how Tammy Daybell actually died.   

Jonathan Vigliotti: Lots of people assume … that your father did not need an post-mortem as a result of he murdered her and did not wanna be caught. Do you purchase that?

Emma Murray: The narrative is that he was going, “No, no, no post-mortem.” However he was standing there — in full shock, traumatized, letting us make the choice. If he was attempting to cover one thing — I would not go away one thing like that as much as my youngsters if I used to be attempting to cover one thing.

However even the children admit, Lori Vallow was just a little tougher to elucidate.

Garth Daybell:: She simply form of appeared. 

Roughly two weeks after their mom’s dying, Chad, ukulele in hand, was celebrating on the seaside in Hawaii along with his new bride.  

Jonathan Vigliotti: How did you course of all of that?

Emma Murray: That was actually onerous. And it actually stunned us … And it was clear that he already had an emotional connection along with her.

Chad and Tammy Daybell’s 5 kids stay steadfast of their perception that their father had nothing to do with the dying of their mom, or the murders of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan. Clockwise from high left, Mark Daybell, Leah Murphy, Seth Daybell, Garth Daybell and Emma Murray. 

Jonathan Vigliotti: I do know this can be a tough query. However was your father having an affair with Lori whereas he was married to your mom?

Emma Murray: That is determined by your definition of affair. Emotionally, I might say sure. However bodily, I feel my father thought he was in the precise as a result of, “I have not had intercourse along with her, so I am being trustworthy.”

Jonathan Vigliotti: Did it ever cross your thoughts, even for a second, that your father killed your mom to clear the best way in order that he may marry Lori?

Daybell siblings [in unison]: No.

Jonathan Vigliotti: I feel widespread sense in loads of methods would recommend there might be a motive behind that sudden passing.

Emma Murray: I can see the place folks would say that. It was a really socially inappropriate option to make. And socially inappropriate doesn’t suggest one thing dangerous occurred although.

However one thing dangerous did occur. And the world was about to find out about it. On November 26, 2019, quickly after the newlyweds returned to Idaho, Rexburg Police got here knocking on Lori’s door in search of JJ. His grandmother, Kay Woodcock, had been unable to succeed in him for a number of months.

Lori informed them that JJ was in Arizona with a pal. The police recorded their dialog: 

LT. RON BALL | Rexburg Police Division: Who’s the pal he is with?

LORI VALLOW: My pal Melanie.

That very same pal who was staying with Lori the final time JJ was seen — Melanie Gibb. She would testify at Chad Daybell’s preliminary listening to that Chad informed her to not choose up the cellphone when the police referred to as, and that Lori requested her to lie and inform the police that JJ was staying along with her in Arizona.

ROB WOOD: How did that make you are feeling?

MELANIE GIBB: I had a extremely dangerous feeling in my abdomen, and I felt very shooken [sic] up by it.

At first, Gibb wasn’t forthcoming to the police, however 12 days later she made a name to Lori and Chad and secretly recorded.


LORI VALLOW: He’s secure and glad.

Chad mentioned they could not inform her the place JJ was for her personal safety.

CHAD DAYBELL: Should you knew, that places you at risk.

JJ and Tylee missing poster
“It turned probably the most well-known lacking individuals case within the nation,” Morgan Loew, an investigative reporter and CBS Information guide mentioned of the seek for JJ and Tylee.


Gibb handed that secret recording to authorities, and investigators launched a nationwide search – however not only for JJ. They might quickly study that his huge sister Tylee was additionally lacking. 

It was enormous information — particularly to Lori’s new stepchildren.

Jonathan Vigliotti: When do you know that she had two youngsters?

Garth Daybell: I first heard of her kids when a detective got here to my work and requested me about them. I had by no means heard of them earlier than that time.

Jonathan Vigliotti: So even after your father weds Lori, you did not know that there have been two youngsters within the image at that time.

Garth Daybell: Didn’t.

Because the hunt for the youngsters intensified, Lori and Chad again headed to Hawaii … seemingly the one two folks in America not involved concerning the lacking kids.

REPORTER NATE EATON | East Idaho Information [to Chad and Lori Daybell]: Are you able to inform me the place your youngsters are? The place are your kids?

Jonathan Vigliotti: While you spoke to your father, listening to the mounting criticism … the continued and rising manhunt for them, did you ever say to your father, “Simply present the children”?

Emma Murray: Yeah.

Jonathan Vigliotti: And what did he say?

Emma Murray: He mentioned, “We will not for his or her security.”

Jonathan Vigliotti: What had been they afraid of? What — what was responsible for JJ unsafe?

Emma Murray: I do not know.

Garth Daybell: I do not know both.

Jonathan Vigliotti: You are telling me at no level right here did you assume, “Oh God, there’s one thing dangerous happening right here. … we have to unravel this? “

Leah Murphy: We, in fact, had these ideas briefly. However it all got here all the way down to our belief in our father. We trusted him and he trusted Lori.  I feel that is actually the way it performed out.

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Lori was arrested in Hawaii on youngster abandonment costs and extradited to Rexburg. Chad Daybell, the loyal husband, was by her facet.

Play out it did. However not the best way they wished. Lori was arrested in Hawaii on youngster abandonment costs and extradited to Rexburg. Chad Daybell, the loyal husband, by her facet.  However now Chad himself was beneath suspicion. With the youngsters lacking, the police took a better have a look at the dying of Tammy. Might she have been murdered? Authorities exhumed her physique.

Garth Daybell It took us calling our grandfather and having him run to the cemetery to confirm that the grave was disturbed. And that was most likely one of many hardest issues we have gone by means of.

Leah Murphy: The whole lot simply retains getting piled on us it looks like.

In a fact is stranger than fiction plot twist, yet one more dying. Lori’s brother, Alex Cox, all of a sudden dropped useless; an post-mortem decided of pure causes.

Morgan Loew: That was a jaw-dropping second, as a result of that is someone who may reply questions.

They are saying useless males do not discuss. However this one did. Alex Cox’s mobile phone harbored a story of horrors ready to be found in Chad Daybell’s yard. 


On June 9, 2020, legislation enforcement descended upon the as soon as peaceable residence and property of Chad Daybell, looking for indicators of JJ and Tylee.

In response to the prosecution, Alex Cox’s mobile phone knowledge positioned him at Daybell’s yard for 2 hours the day after Tylee Ryan was final seen. Authorities later found her stays on this identical spot.

Emma Murray, Jonathan Vigliotti
Emma Murray exhibits Jonathan Vigliotti the spot on her father’s property the place Tylee Ryan’s stay had been unearthed.

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It was an space the Daybell household used as a pet cemetery. It now contained Tylee’s badly burned physique. And about 50 yards away, JJ’s stays had been present in a shallow grave beneath a tree. He was in his crimson pajamas.

JJ was additionally lined head to toe in duct tape, as a detective would later describe:

DET. RAY HERMOSILLO: He had duct tape constantly wrapped from elbow all the best way round his arms, over his fingers, all the best way to his proper elbow.

Morgan Loew: Why do you bind someone’s ft and fingers and mouth in duct tape? You do it to maintain them from yelling or speaking.

Morgan Loew: These had been actual youngsters that had these horrendous issues completed to them.

Whereas investigators had been discovering the brutally murdered our bodies, Chad had gone to his automobile. Later, says Emma, as her father began driving off to satisfy his legal professional, they realized the horrifying information.  

Emma Murray: When my dad left, they arrested him. … Some cops informed me that that they had found human stays on the property. … I used to be standing within the doorway of the police automobile as he was sitting inside, handcuffed. And the very first thing he requested me was, “Are you aware why they arrested me?” And my thought was, “How do you not know?” And I used to be crying. I mentioned, “Dad, they discovered human stays.” And his face went white, and his eyes went large. He was shocked. 

Jonathan Vigliotti: When the our bodies had been present in your father’s yard after your father was unable to reply the straightforward query of, “The place are the youngsters?” Was {that a} second the place you questioned your father’s innocence?

Leah Murphy: Not my father.

Mark Daybell: It goes again to what we learn about him as a person, as our father.

Jonathan Vigliotti: If he did not kill them, then why had been their our bodies discovered buried in your father’s yard?

Emma Murray: I do not know why they might be there. However I do know that if he had been to commit a criminal offense, he would not be silly sufficient to place the proof in his personal yard.

Emma Murray [on Daybell’s property]: That is the place Tylee’s physique was discovered, is again right here.

Jonathan Vigliotti: It should be onerous so that you can come and go to this space.

Emma Murray: I do not come again right here. It is horrific to even take into consideration.

Murray confirmed “48 Hours” across the property, believing that the world itself helps clarify why her household thinks their father is harmless. For them, the notion that Chad would disguise something within the yard, is unnecessary.

Emma Murray
Emma Murray confirmed “48 Hours” across the Daybell property, believing that the world itself helps clarify why her household thinks their father is harmless. For them, the notion that Chad would disguise something within the yard, is unnecessary.

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Emma Murray: You may go searching for miles and miles. There’s not homes and neighbors. You may go all the way down to the river that manner. There’s … land down there that nobody would ever contact.

And, the Daybell household says, the truth that the remains were found in shallow graves factors fingers away from their father, who had labored as a gravedigger.

Seth Daybell: He knew the right way to dig graves and — that simply does not sound plausible to me.

Morgan Loew: Saying that someone’s prior expertise as a gravedigger implies that they would not simply sloppily bury someone in their very own yard kind of reductions the entire psychological stress that is perhaps affecting someone who’s attempting to do away with our bodies.

However possibly probably the most damning proof in opposition to Chad are his personal phrases: a textual content message he despatched 9 months earlier than the our bodies had been found to his then spouse, Tammy.

It learn partially, “I noticed a giant racoon [sic] alongside the fence. I hurried and received my gun … one shot did the trick. He’s now in our pet cemetery.”

Morgan Loew: The truth that Chad despatched that textual content to his spouse, it was like he was establishing an excuse.

It was despatched on the day prosecutors imagine Tylee was buried, 14 minutes after Alex Cox’s GPS positioned him on the Daybell property.

Jonathan Vigliotti: The timeline could be very chilling. Alex Cox there and your father texting your mom saying that he shot and buried a raccoon across the identical time, in the identical precisely place, that Tylee was discovered.  …  this looks as if a smoking gun to me.

Garth Daybell: Effectively, that very same day once I arrived residence from work, he mentioned, “Hey, Garth, I received that raccoon we had been in search of.” We had been … having a raccoon downside … We would set out traps. The traps had been too small. So, the following best choice was to shoot them.

Nevertheless, investigators discovered no raccoon. The Daybell household says that is as a result of there’s one other pet cemetery, in a special spot.

Emma Murray [pointing in backyard]: Over there’s the place our secondary pet cemetery was.

Garth Daybell: We had a brand new part of our pasture that we had designated for burying animals.

Emma Murray: They did not go over to that part in any respect and search it.

Garth Daybell: They did not’ contact all of it throughout the search.

Morgan Loew: If there was a second pet cemetery, I might think about the protection is gonna provide you with proof.

In Might 2021, Chad and Lori  Daybell had been charged with homicide within the deaths of JJ and Tylee.  

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However the proof prosecutors had in opposition to Chad and Lori was mounting, and in Might 2021, Chad and Lori had been charged with homicide within the deaths of JJ and Tylee.  

Emma Murray: I do know that my father believes … that killing somebody, murdering somebody, is just not what God desires.

However Chad did imagine that some people had darkish spirits, like Tylee.  An area Fox TV station uncovered an e-mail from Chad to Lori, the place he graded folks, giving Tylee a “D” as a darkish spirit. 

Emma Murray: I do not know what to say … It simply appears immature. However I do not know.

Additionally they say there was no discuss of zombies, or cults. 

Garth Daybell: He by no means mentioned a factor to us about zombies. The primary we ever heard of it was in a information report.

Emma Murray: I feel if he was going to start out a cult, we might be the prime members.

Garth Daybell: He would’ve began with us. … it simply did not occur.

Jonathan Vigliotti:  So, you do not imagine that your father radicalized Lori.

Emma Murray [shakes her head]: No.

Leah Murphy: We actually do not know Lori or what she was pondering. However we do know our dad.

Nonetheless, investigative reporter Morgan Loew says the suspicion surrounding Chad is tough to disregard.

Morgan Loew: There are loads of items of circumstantial proof that tie Chad Daybell to those murders … The our bodies had been present in his yard. The textual content message concerning the raccoon. His spouse died beneath mysterious circumstances. And he requested Melanie Gibb to not choose up the cellphone when the police referred to as. …These items of proof are onerous to get round.

Leah Murphy: We do need there to be justice for whoever did this horrible crime.

Seth Daybell: We do not need to appear callous, that we do not really feel unhappy about JJ and Tylee.

Emma Murray: ‘Trigger we do.

Seth Daybell: Yeah, as a result of we do.

Emma Murray: We’re very unhappy. We simply do not assume it was our father.

And the household has an alternate principle about what might have occurred.

Jonathan Vigliotti: What do you assume actually unfolded?

Emma Murray: He was framed. That is his property. If there’s our bodies buried right here, it could be attributed to him.

Jonathan Vigliotti: Who framed your father?

Emma Murray: I feel it is fairly clear it was Lori and Alex. … Alex got here and left for intervals of time. … We do not know — what precisely he was doing.

Morgan Loew: I assume it is potential that Chad was framed. … That is both the least fortunate particular person on the earth, or … that is homicide.


The Daybell kids are perpetually marked by what occurred of their yard.

Jonathan Vigliotti [on Daybell’s property]: What goes on in your thoughts as you stand right here what was the gravesite for JJ?

Emma Murray: It is horrible. I — it is onerous to even comprehend. It is a nightmare for me [cries] each single day to even take into consideration. Lives with a lot potential and goodness and so they’re gone they’re ended.

However Emma nonetheless believes their father, Chad Daybell, had no position within the deaths of JJ and Tylee. She stays satisfied that he was unwittingly lured into Lori Vallow and Alex Cox’ internet of homicide and deceit.

Jonathan Vigliotti:  How may he be surrounded by such evil, and never comprehend it?

Emma Murray: I’ve questioned the identical factor … I feel he was fooled within the worst, most threatening manner potential.

Jonathan Vigliotti: In case your father had no position in any way, why do you assume Alex or Lori would kill the youngsters?

Garth Daybell: We would need to get into their head to know that.

Emma Murray: I feel we might all prefer to know that.

Charles and Lori Vallow

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One principle goes again to the dying of Charles Vallow, Lori’s husband when she first met Chad Daybell. Bear in mind, Charles was shot useless by Alex Cox, who claimed it was self-defense. After additional investigation, police now say that it was homicide. Tylee might have been a witness that day, and it is potential, says Lori’s longtime pal April Raymond, that she knew an excessive amount of.

Jonathan Vigliotti: Why do you assume the youngsters had been murdered?

April Raymond: I really feel like they had been a legal responsibility. Particularly Tylee was a legal responsibility for what she knew.

Morgan Loew: Tylee is useless. JJ is useless. … Even Alex Cox is useless, though investigators say he died of pure causes. You may’t ignore the concept each witness to what occurred to Charles Vallow is now useless aside from Lori Vallow Daybell.

Based mostly partially on a abstract of police proof, prosecutors in Arizona charged Lori with conspiring with Alex to kill Charles Vallow

Morgan Loew: It is a compelling case that they’ve. They’ve digital proof. They’ve textual content messages. … what they are saying is that this was a deliberate occasion. … Lori and … Alex Cox deliberate to kill Charles Vallow.

One potential motive says Loew: she wished Vallow’s million-dollar life insurance coverage coverage.

Morgan Loew: We all know that shortly after Charles’s dying, Lori tried to assert that life insurance coverage coverage.

Police say Cox shot Charles as soon as within the chest and shot him once more whereas he was helpless on the bottom. Additionally they concluded that he waited practically 45 minutes earlier than calling 911. And although Cox claimed to be giving Charles CPR, police say he was solely pretending to attempt to save his life.  

Morgan Loew: When the primary responders arrived on the scene and so they began performing CPR, blood began popping out of the injuries. And that informed the primary responders that no one had carried out CPR earlier than.

And authorities say Charles Vallow is just not the one murdered partner on this story.

In Idaho, Chad and Lori have been charged with conspiring to homicide Tammy Daybell. Although the outcomes of Tammy’s post-mortem carried out after she was exhumed haven’t been publicly launched, Garth Daybell says authorities informed him how they imagine his mom was killed.

Garth Daybell: They informed me that she’d been asphyxiated.

Jonathan Vigliotti: What went on in your thoughts when you have got police telling you, “Your mom was asphyxiated?”

Garth Daybell: It is — it is onerous to course of. However I simply nonetheless cannot imagine that he would do such a factor.

Leah Murphy: My dad beloved my mother very, very a lot. And he or she beloved him.  … he may by no means try this.

Leah Murphy: We have had a number of interactions with the police the place … they’ve informed us issues earlier than that turned out to not be true.

However police are satisfied that collectively Chad and Lori had been a deadly mixture.

Morgan Loew: There’re loads of huge questions on this case. However the greatest might be who’s the mastermind right here. Was it Chad Daybell, the cult chief who pulled the strings from the sidelines, or was it Lori Vallow Daybell, the bombshell, the black widow who used her attraction and intercourse attraction to get different folks to do her bidding?

Each Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell had been charged with homicide in Might 2021. Earlier than she entered a plea, Lori Vallow’s case was positioned on maintain after a choose dominated her incompetent to face trial whereas she undergoes psychological well being therapy.  

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Lori and Chad had been scheduled to be tried collectively. Then, simply after homicide costs had been introduced, Lori’s case was placed on maintain. A choose dominated her incompetent to face trial whereas she underwent psychological well being therapy.   

In August 2021, the State of Idaho introduced will probably be searching for the dying penalty in opposition to Chad Daybell. He has pleaded not responsible to all counts.

Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow
Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow

September 2022 marks the third anniversary of Tylee and JJ’s deaths. So many, grief-stricken and indignant, await the trials, hoping for justice. However in the long run, no verdict can do what everybody desires probably the most – to deliver the youngsters again.

Dominated competent to face trial in April 2022,  Lori Vallow is now scheduled to be tried with Chad Daybell  in January 2023. If convicted of first-degree homicide, each Chad and Lori may  face the dying penalty. 

Produced by Liza Finley. Greg Fisher is the event producer. Ruth Chenetz and Richard Fetzer are producers. Mead Stone is the producer-editor. Doreen Schechter, Ken Blum, Joan Adelman, Michelle Harris and Kevin Dean are the editors. Patti Aronofsky is the senior producer. Nancy Kramer is the chief story editor. Judy Tygard is the chief producer.  

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